web designerSearch by KeywordsI meant “you� as any designer trying to sell his/her service, not Jeff in particular. Jeff’s work in particular is very good relatively speaking. Certainly better than anything I could ever hope to put together. How is she really effecting your position in the industry? You’re missing the point, and this comment illustrates it. I’m not talking about this because I’m not comfortable with my station in life. I’m happy with where I am — and you’re I think most clients don’t understand these things, and that is why I am advocating for some sort of group/orginazation/site/wahtever that serves to educate the consumers of web design. I think this is a good point; many clients aren’t It’s hard to believe that one could do well in an industry without keeping up with the state of the art. I assure you, several of these people continue to do well. The afore mentioned “Manager of Web Services� makes more money than me, Ah OK, at first it wasn’t clear to me that you were concerned about the state of all those unfortunate people who have to pay for terrible websites and for the unfortunate people that browse them. This is just my opinion, It’s hard to take this rant serious when the author got his start the exact same way he’s advocating against. I started in 1994. If you know of a university where I could have gotten a quality web design education in 1994, let me know. Nice leap of logic. At no point does Jeff complain that ‘his’ clients aren’t looking at portfolios — yet you make the inane assertion that Jeff is somehow unhappy with where he’s at due to not selling himself hard enough. All your points are valid but I do think there is a way to make such a ‘union’ work however you’d have to come at it from the viewpoint of the client and all the things we know/assume about them. If we take as a given that they cannot To me, “professional� designers should not have any care or issue over this. Being a “professional� means you work in the industry and on great projects already. You create “professional� work. Designers need to stop whining about how You could form a brute squad to strong-arm others out of the market—or to bully clients into chosing Designers of “Designers.� I find this a sticky subject, because it sometimes sounds like people are saying professional designers are What I am advocating against is the people who learn a few basic tools (like Dreamweaver) and then decide they don’t need to learn another thing for the rest of their careers. It’s hard to believe that one could do well in an industry It’s hard to take this rant serious when the author got his start the exact same way he’s advocating against. The tone comes out rather arrogant (“We professionals, those amateurs�) and the line between amateur and professional is both Web Designer. Job Responsibilities : *Creative Thinker *Translating requirements into page-level design mockups *Improvements to existing interfaces *Converting mocks into HTML *Detailed documentation of interface design, However, I don’t anticipate becoming a professional web designer after college. I do, however, anticipate continuing to learn about CSS, XHTML, JS, and other technologies. Here’s my thoughts: If you are to make this professional body of There are some great points in this article and comments, and this discussion follows on nicely from Mark Boulton’s post, and also fits in nicely with the kerfuffle over alcoholic design rips at Airbag Industries. You have to be careful to not let the client think you’re insulting his/her judgement or the competence of his/her employee, buddy, nephew or other potential “web designer�. At the same time you do need to deliver the hard facts about I agree with client AND developer education. Many on both sides of the line are completely ignorant to good design—both graphically and semantically. Something needs to be done. I originally became interested in Web design after Jeff writes:. They think, “Sure, a high-end designer would do even better, but this guy will be plenty good enough.� But is it really plenty good enough? –-. Isn’t that their decision to make? If they go cheap and get a bad site and Yes! I’ve had similar discussions and ideas but it always comes down to who’s going to do all the work to set this up and maintain it. Sadly, AIGA doesn’t seem interested otherwise they would have done it already (which is weird to me Design is one of those places where you get what you pay for. Yes, I could buy those $15 “Faded Glory� jeans from Wal-Mart, and they’ll cover me. But I buy the $130 jeans from Seven (or whomever) *because they make my butt look better. |
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